Some men came to Sahl ibin Saad Al-Saadi and they were arguing about the kind of wood that the pulpit was made of, so they asked him about it. He said: By Allah, I know what it is, and I saw it the first day it was set up, and the first day the Messenger of Allah sat on it. The Messenger of Allah sent to a woman (some women named by Sahl) telling her: Ask your boy, the carpenter, to make something for me to sit on when I speak to the people. So she ordered the boy to make it from the tamarisk of the forest, then he brought it and it was sent to the Messenger of Allah, then he ordered it to be placed here. Then I saw the Messenger of Allah praying and saying "Allahu Akbar" while he was on top of it, then he kneeled while he was on top of it, then he came down backwards and prostrated at the base of the pulpit, then he returned, and when he finished, he turned to the people and said: O People I only did this so that you might follow me and learn how I pray.